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technology is advancing. As a result, HHO Companies are getting smarter as
competition increases. Customers are getting smarter too, and sharing
information with me. In case you do not know, this web site is dedicated to providing Free
Information --- to help move this technology forward --- and it
is working.
Hundreds of first time buyers land on this web site each day. Most of
them want to learn more - so they can make better choices when they
choose an HHO Companies product. Many of them find their way to this web
page. I was asked to look at the following HHO companies and
calculate if
their claims of Cell Liters Per Minute could be substantiated, based on
the descriptions and configurations listed on their web sites.
This is not to say that a companies product is good or bad. It is simply
to determine if the stated LPM output is even close to being possible with their
suggested operating amperage. Why? Because, Potential Customers are being advised to
buy on the basis of LPM output. That can be very misleading when the actual
LPM output is not substantiated. It makes one company product look
better than another company's --- on paper; buy from me, my product is
better. This has to be stopped, and
the Florida Attorney General's Office is doing something about it.
Surely other states will follow. It would help the Buyer, if a company
listed how long their Cell would operate (at a suggested amperage) without overheating (I
call that --- Run Time).
The Run Time for a 5 plate cell is shorter than a 6 plate cell.
Likewise, the Run Time for a 1 stack cell is longer than a 2 stack cell
(unless each stack has its own Bubbler/Tank). Two stacks, sharing the
same water, heat the same water twice as fast (could be a good thing -
could be bad). Sound confusing? Companies are stating
their cells produce exact amounts of LPM. That is not needed;
Approximately or About is all we need. And don't report it was measured
with a device that the customer can not realistically purchase and
measure with themselves. Filling a bottle with water and displacing it
with the gas is about the most realistic measurement I have seen;
although crude. At
least, it allows us to Time it along with them. The method is not exact,
but it is close enough for us to make a decision. There are
too many companies using oxygen meters, hydrogen meters, air meters; and
no telling what else; none of those measure HHO close to acceptable
measurements. Dwyer company will custom make a hydroxy meter for you,
but you must tell them the Exact % of hydrogen and oxygen mix. Then,
they don't guarantee it to be accurate. You could tell them any % you
want, and they will make it and label it "Hydroxy". So, Who do we trust?
Who can we trust? I leave it to basic Faraday Laws. That is why I built
the Cell Configurator to calculate possible LPM outputs. It may not be
exact, but it is close. Close enough for me, and close enough for anyone
to use to evaluate a product's LPM claims. I am purposely excluding
special electronics that may or may not increase HHO production; that
may or may not increase efficiency. I also purposely exclude MMW
efficiency ratings because practically no one calculates it correctly -
yet they all rely on it to make sales pitches. MMW accuracy is only as
good as the measurement of HHO; not an estimate. |
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" DON'T MAKE CLAIMS YOU CAN'T BACK UP --- WITH
DOCUMENTATION --- REPEATABLE ! "
Make that information available for your potential customers to see and
examine |
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Companies with
Substantiated Claims of Liter Per Minute Output
Verified with my Cell Configurator |
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http://www.geshho.com/ Global
Ecological Solutions |
This company makes the Best Cells I have seen
(I have 3 of them). They set the Mark for other companies to strive for. LPM
calculations backup their video proof; so does my testing. If my LPM
calculations work on this companies product -- then tell me why it
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http://www.greenfuelh2o.com/
delvis11 |
This company is second, in my opinion.
They make a very reliable product. LPM
calculations backup their video proof. My LPM Calculator works on this
companies products. So why should it not work on the rest that follow? |
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http://hydrogengarage.com/ |
Also sells
other companies products that are on this list |
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http://www.hhoconnection.com/ |
Sells other
companies products that are on this list |
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http://hydrogentrucker.com/
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Sells other
companies products that are on this list |
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http://centralvalleyhho.com/ |
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http://www.dc-hybrids.com |
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http://www.dry-cells.com |
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http://www.hho2europa.eu/Our_Products.aspx |
Sells other
companies products listed here, but does not make unsubstantiated claims |
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delvis11 Greenfuelh20 |
Highly
Reliable Company |
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tnhonestabe PE Hydrogen Cells |
Disregard
the Dwyer LPM Meter reading in the one video and I will support these
products. Seller makes no claims as to the Output of the cells |
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hhoscar |
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HHOMakers |
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thepunch |
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OTOP 99 Thai |
26 Plate and
31 Plate |
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Companies with
Un-substantiated Claims |
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The following companies offer no proof that can substantiate
the amount of HHO being produced, or the LPM they say their Cells can produce with
the given amount of
amperage it is fused for. If their LPM were even close to what Faraday said is possible,
with their
cell configurations or electronics, they would not be on this list. In
some cases, they offer no projected LPM capabilities.
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http://www.hydrogenuk.co.uk/#/hho-separator/4573365392
http://www.costaenergydevices.com/
and
http://www.costaenergydevices.com/
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CED US UK LTD & Spain
Fraudulent representation of their product.
Images and verbiage are copied from Global Ecological Solutions' web
site; word for word. |
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http://www.punchhho.com/ |
I like the
Punch Cell, but 7 plates can
not produce 1LPM @ 14v and 10 amps. It takes 16 amps. |
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https://www.hydrolectricpower.com/ hydropower.us
HH2.us |
A lot of Talk and Pretty Lights. Free Shipping (price is included in the
selling price). Special Offers - Free installation (price is included in
the extravagant selling price). They claim their product is a clean
burning fuel, for IRS deductions. Problem is, the product is not
powering the engine; it is aiding the combustion of the existing fuel.
In their videos, oxygen and hydrogen bubbles are circulating from the
bottom of their tubes; the gases are separated. Both gas bubbles act the
same, move at the same rate of speed (that is not possible).
You will not get hydrogen gas to go down hill in
water. Not even with the worlds strongest magnets. Beware! |
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http://www.hydrotechnix.moonfruit.com/#/our-products/4535260148 |
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http://www.bettermpgtoday.com/apps/webstore/
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Sells other companies products, that are on this list. |
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http://www.aquacelltek.com/otherproducts.html |
Sells other
companies products that are on this list. |
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http://evolutionhho.com |
Sells other
companies products that are on this list |
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http://hydroclubusa.com/ |
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http://smacksboosters.110mb.com/smactanium.htm
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Titanium
Cell
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http://www.hho2u.com/
http://hydrogengenerator.wordpress.com/
http://hho2u-blog.blogspot.com/2009/03/hho-generator-ebook-plans-support.html
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Video Proof
measurements are based on a flow meter. Measurements are more than 50%
too much for the number of plates and amperage used. Active plate
surface area is too small to operate at their suggested amperage, for
long periods.
Blog:
http://hho4u.wordpress.com/category/hho-dry-cell/ |
http://2hho.com
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http://www.fuelcellllc.com/
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LPM for the amperage used is realistic for the MC Series.
Consistent verbiage changes should help this site get off this list.
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http://www.hydrofuelsys.com/cubecart/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=19 |
Overstates the amount of Hydrogen their Separation Cell can make, using
30 amps. It is a 2 stack, 6 plate Series separation cell. They say it
makes 1.9 LPM hydrogen. It can not make that much HHO with 30 amps, much
less Hydrogen. |
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http://hydroxsystems.co.uk/ |
LPM is way over stated for the amperage. They use 4 inch plates. |
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https://www.hydrolectricpower.com/ |
Beware of this site. It raises Red Flags. Their main video looks to be a
SCAM. Equal amounts of Hydrogen bubbles, and Oxygen bubbles; all bubbles
are coming from the bottoms of the two large electrode perforated tubes;
impossible. 2 electrodes can only produce 10.44 ML of H & O per amp. |
http://www.ogohho.com/
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Amperage / LPM is way overstated, and Current Density. |
https://www.facebook.com/GHTPacific
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GHTPacific (on facebook) |
http://www.naturalmotors.com/
http://hydrogengenerator.wordpress.com/ |
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Punch 5.0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jQnRmGVemI |
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http://aussiehybrids.com/ |
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http://www.dieselhydrogen.us/ |
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http://www.hydrofuelgenerator.com |
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http://www.hydrotechnix.moonfruit.com/
http://www.hydrogen-boost.com
http://www.safehho.com/
Affiliate
http://www.dudadiesel.com/HHO.php |
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http://www.drive60mpg.com |
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http://www.allhho.com/ |
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Alternative Gas Solutions
http://alternativegassolutions.com/home.html |
same
product as below |
Mileage Shop
http://www.mileageshop.com/ |
same
product as above and below |
H2 Da Kine
http://www.h2dakine.com/
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Hawaii same product as Mileageshop |
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Global Energy Devices
http://www.globalenergydevices.com/ |
same product as Mileage Shop above and below |
Make Fuel Safe
http://www.makefuelsafe.com/index.html
http://www.energysolutionpakistan.com/HHOKit.html
http://www.wam-a-bam.com/MileageShop
http://www.hhogas.at/
http://www.hhohydrogenkits.com
http://www.makefuelsafe.com
http://www.coastautohybrids.com
http://www.watercarwisconsin.com
http://bettermileagetoday.com/
http://www.turnwaterintofuel.com/
http://www.hydroconvert.net/
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same product as above and below
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same product as above |
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http://corefuelgroup.com/products |
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http://www.greensource.ca/index.html |
same
product as below |
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http://greenenergetix.com/ |
same
product as above |
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http://www.hho-plus.com/
http://www.hhoplus-bulgaria.com/
http://www.plushhogas.com/
http://www.hhoinfusion.com/products
http://hhoplusgas.en.ec21.com/company_info.jsp
http://oktanplus.com/
http://www.hhogas.at/
http://www.hhoenergy.lv/produkti/hho.html
http://eazyclean-automotive.eu/
www.hho-italia.com/
www.hidrogen-auto.ro
http://hho-future.com/
http://www.hho24.com/shop/pi5/pd26.html
http://www.hhosolution.com/UK/sales.php
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same product as below
same product as above and below
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same product as above |
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http://www.hydrogen-generators-usa.com |
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http://www.hhokitsdirect.com/ |
Uses a flow
meter to measure the gas. Meter is off by 50% |
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http://burnhydrox.com |
New Category
-- An accident waiting to Happen |
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http://www.nwhydrogengenerators.com |
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http://www.biohydrogen-power.com/
http://www.highperformancefuelcell.com/
http://www.hyfusion.com/parts.htm
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http://www.alternative-energy-resources.net |
Sells other
companies products on this list |
http://www.g1nbc.net/hydrogenator_hydrogen_power_cars.htm
http://www.hytechapps.com/index.html
http://www.hhotube.com/
http://savewithhydrogen.com/ |
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http://hydro-extra.webs.com/ |
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http://www.powergate.us/HHOParts/
http://enviroinnovations.com.au/main/page_advancedhho_product_page.html
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Enviro
Innovations, Australia |
http://www.hydrotuning.info/
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Reports of
non-support on the Volo chip. Company will not return your calls if they
don't have answers for you. |
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greensource |
Pro
Hydrogen, Pure Hydrogen |
| eBay
Hydro Club USA |
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Itouch2000 |
oGo 9 Plate,
11 Plate, 21 Plate |
| eBay
glknox1 Knox Scientific HHO |
HHO
Generators and Plans, TripleGen |
| eBay
gcar9604 |
21 Plate
Generator Plans (maximum operating amps are overstated) |
eBay
italiabianca affiliate of
http://www.fuelcellllc.com/
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LPM are way over
estimated for the amperage used |
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harrison_specialties |
21 Plate
Generator Plans (maximum amperage is overstated) |
| eBay
NQ
Hybrids stainless steel gates |
Overstates
maximum amperage |
| eBay
HHO Evolution |
No Proof
whatsoever; not a hint of evidence |
| eBay
DVD Deals 103 |
HHO Hybrid
Stanley Meyers Plans |
| eBay
HHO
Products agl0002 Labella's Auto Repair |
HHO Dry Cell
Kits, 4x4, |
| eBay
esp8103 |
Suggested
amperage exceeds the Efficient Current Density of the plates (3 fold) |
| eBay
vadaenergy Vada Max |
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| eBay
hhotek512 |
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| eBay
Heulici123 |
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| eBay
Hydro-Tuning |
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| eBay
Green Energetix |
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| eBay
Liberator sherman744 |
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| eBay
bestbargains777 |
New Category
--- An Accident waiting to Happen |
| eBay
Kev-Lau Hydrogen Booster |
New Category
--- An Accident waiting to Happen |
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tacticlesurvivalist |
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| eBay
sinisaing4 |
Overstated
Maximum Amperage for the plate configuration |
| eBay
cdl-2003 |
Overstated
LPM on 6x6 3 Stack Cell at 25 amps |
| eBay
powereconomyperformance |
Not enough
details to form an opinion |
| eBay
glknox1 |
What do you
get? |
| eBay
hhocell2011 |
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| eBay
davey_jr |
New Category
--- An Accident waiting to Happen |
| eBay
energiah2o10 |
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